this isnt vader, this is anakin. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. - Page 3. Vs Darth Maul 5. At the moment, they remain equal due to Yoda's vast experience, lightsaber prowess, and power as a Force Spirit to manipulate the Force. Anakin won by getting mad, which he probably would have done against Sidious and he could have won.. Not necessarily would have, but he could have. Yes, while being dead. Gauntlet 1(Prime Ahsoka) 1. He also had a wide array of powers from teleportation to elemental Force powers to an advanced extent. To compensate for his lessened mobility in the suit, he improved his force abilities. The pair were immortal under the condition of their Father being alive, and they are free from getting hurt by the Dagger of Mortis. Both went out real quick. This is another debate that has raged on for years, becoming even less clear with the new canon. However, Luke's Force projection may well be a sign that in the coming years, his power over Yoda may get confirmed. And as Anakin accused Obi of understimating his power, this is exactly what Yoda did to Sidious. Obi-Wan Kenobi is a legendary Jedi, a talented swordsman, skilled in the Force, and crucial to the Galaxy, but he is no Yoda. And with a Lightsaber Sidious doesn't stand a chance. For one, the prophecy isn't concrete in my mind. Master Xehanort vs. Darth Sidious is a What-If Death Battle created by Venage237.This fan made Death Battle features Master Xehanort from the Kingdom Hearts series, and Darth Sidious from the Star Wars series, in which both franchises are owned by Disney. But Sidious Will win cause Anakin is just 20 with somewhat 10 yrs exp while Sidious had 150yrs dark side exp. The same Talzin also was doing just fine dueling Windu in a sword fight in season 6. Yes, Yoda escaped a batter from Palpatine in Revenge Of The Sith, but Palpatine attempted to escape multiple times, Yoda left unscathed, and Palpatine had the high ground (not a joke) and better positioning. Description. Common sets (100): approx. While surpassed all expectations under the tutelage of Qui-Gon Jinn, became one of the wisest and most heroic Star Wars characters, and was the first to become a Force Spirit, Obi-Wan was never naturally special in the Force outside of being a potential Jedi. Mace couldn't beat him, Yoda couldn't beat him and Anikan, some punk padawan, can not beat him. Sidious' powers would certainly take it to Anakin, but Anakin has been fighting more than Sidious and he owned Dooku, one of the best lightsaber duelists ever. While I don't think much of Sidious as a duellist, his Force powers cannot be denied. Ahsoka Tano ahsoka in her prime slaps anakin. I believe I saw him kill Jedi younglings, while backed by a group of Clone troopers, who led an assault on the Jedi temple that left flames and explosions even Padme could see from across Coruscant. As for yoda....he beat sidious (but lost because his size made him fly away after winning the force struggle) And I don't see Anikin as better then sidious that fought Yoda, maybe in lightsaber speed, but not the force. Yoda encountered the Priestesses on his journey of discovery, reflection, and knowledge as he sought to become wiser and more attuned to the Force. He's nearly as powerful as Yoda. George Lucas confirm Palpatine/ Darth Sidious wasn't holding back and try all his best to defeat Mace In AOTC, Anakin tells Padme about Obi Wan, saying that he's "as wise as master Yoda and as powerful as master Windu", thus implying that Windu is the most powerful Jedi Master. Yoda, in slightly better circumstances, could have ended the life and reign of Sidious. He could beat Obi-Wan easily, he has beaten Yoda easily. think of him using both together). Hope begged but to no avail. Also Luke didn't expect Sidious to start ripping into him with Force lightning (and even then, in the novelization, Luke was able to deflect some bolts). While I believe Sidious to be a rather poor excuse for a lightsaber duellist. This is why he usually falls back on his famous force choke as Darth Vader. Ultimately, their immense array of Force ability and power surpasses that of Yoda and any other living being who could only hope to hold their knowledge, if anything. Its the dark forces that ravages his body and makes him look 1000. RELATED: Star Wars: 10 Biggest Ways Luke Skywalker Changed Throughout The Movies. Anakins skills were doubling every year and from what he did to Dooku I assure you in one more year he would have licked everything under that damned galaxy either using his force alone or his lightsaber alone( WOW! While she destroyed Palpatine, she did so with aid from past Jedi. When I say sidious at his youthful prime, I meant and mentioned in the OP, that Sidious has all of his combat memories, experience, knowledge, everything to his "death" at the end of DE. But Yoda's lightsaber speed is roughly the same speed Anikin showed vs … At some point, during his youth, he met Darth Plagueis, a Dark Lord of the Sith, who took him as an apprentice with the name of Darth Sidious. It was settled they would go to the Nemesis and get Hope back, no matter the cost. There is too little content out there relating to Luke, especially in a post-Return Of The Jedi Galaxy, to say whether or not he is more powerful definitively. Welcome to The Clone Wars Double Take—where Fabio and Ross (and maybe even special guests) will give some quick thoughts regarding the latest episodes of The Clone Wars (Season 7) on Disney+. Sorry if this has been done before but it was impossible to to do a search on this match with all the combinations of variations of these two characters' names. Anakin defeated Count Dooku who was a master swordsman. Vs General Grevious 4. What the hell? They are siblings, with the Son embodying the Dark Side of the Force, and the Daughter representing the Light Side of the Force. The Sidious material should be merged here. --Mackensen 20:09, 7 May 2005 (UTC) Darth Sidious or Palpatine. However, Yoda is exceptionally proficient with a lightsaber, and his advanced age prevented a full-on dive into his abilities. Arguably the two best Jedi of them all have been Obi-Wan Kenobi, apprentice to Qui-Gon and master to both Anakin and Luke; and Yoda, the little green senior citizen who lived for 900 years and only aged past his prime in the final decade or so of his life. Anakin said as Team Prime understood. This debate is another that has been raging on for years, with no definitive answer. Vs Darth Sidious(sorry) Gauntlet 2(Ventress) 1. So to answer your question, Anakin is nowhere close to her either. He's an old man well past his prime. I'm not so sure, he could if he attacks from the start, but Anakin his anger gives him a lot of power... Something that could help him block Sidious his attacks, something that could help him break through Sidious his attacks. He's destined to kill him. Kit Fisto was proficient with a lightsaber, one of the most skilled on the Council, in fact. Mace could have ended the Sith. Vader was holding back against Luke though. Ashoka in her prime can match Vader and Sidious in skill. Introduced in The Empire Strikes Back, Yoda is one of the most iconic characters in all of Star Wars. Anakin. Their relationship to the Force is what ultimately pushes them to be more powerful than Yoda. Re: Anakin vs Obi Wan-New Quotes(Mustafar Kenobi is prime Kenobi confirmed) on November 25th 2019, 12:35 pm So why is KFV considered = Sidious when this basically reinforces the idea that it was by Mustafar that Vader = Sidious? Few characters have definitively surpassed him in terms of power. By the way Sidious is about 63 in ROTS. Not long after the Battle of Coruscant, Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker began experiencing visions of his wife, Padmé Amidala, dying in childbirth. Obi-Wan Kenobi: YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE! Great, DarkAge is our newest genius. They existed in the Wellspring of Life, the Force planet, and are mysterious beings who held the key to becoming a Force Spirit. Ever since Darth Maul took center stage in the most recent Clone Wars arc, we've been waiting for Chancellor Palpatine to step out of the shadows and school Maul as Darth Sidious. Anakin has a shot here, besides Sidious sucks as a duelist and if Anakin could block Sidious his lightning he would win. how's it not proven? 12 boxes/case. Anakin himself wants to face Sidious as soon as he takes care of Obi. Darth Sidious, the most powerful Sith Lord, was a great physical combatant. Sidious already thinks Anakin is more powerful then him, and he says Anakin will become even more powerful then Yoda. However, the reason why he did not reach the level of Master Yoda is that he never fulfilled that potential. Yoda was the grand master of the Jedi order, and strong with the force. Any sucks compared to the Sith Lord himself. He would use all of his Force talents to raze Anakin while he attacked relentlessly. Anyway, who would win between RotS Anakin and RotS Sidious? Disturbed, Skywalker sought the advice of Master Yoda; however, Yoda advised him to "let go of everything he feared to lose" which simply served to frustrate Skywalker, as he did not understand what Yoda was trying to say. In a fight to the absolute death i'd say Anakin, right after he kills the viceroy and all them but before obi wan makes him into chop suey. RELATED: Star Wars: 10 Unanswered Questions We Still Have About The Jedi. He always thought that the Sith avoided confrontations. Yes, RotJ Luke scales to Vader, but loosely. My god, it's so obvious whoever thinks Anikan can win! Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. Darth Sidious Sheev Palpatine: 4.1 K: The Chosen One Anakin Skywalker: 36 B: Grand Master Skywalker Luke Skywalker: 20 M: Mystic Of The Thanosi Mystic: Lifebringer Galactus Galan: 36 B: White Phoenix of the Crown Jean Grey: 10 B: Perpetua Perpetua: 12 B: Superman Prime One-Million Kal-El: 3.2 M: Darkseid (Soulfire) Uxas: 36 B: team class: 130 B No. Anakin would only scale to 3 … This is also the Season 2 Finale. Yoda was over nine-hundred years old, training Jedi for eight-hundred of those, so it is hard to imagine a five or six-hundred-year-old Yoda, with no walking stick or need for Force Valour would fall to the fifty-year-old Palpatine, but perhaps time will tell. Are you kidding? That does not compare with over nine-hundred years of lightsaber skill - of which Rey is talented but not near the very top - and Force study - of which again, Rey is talented, but not at the top of the list where Yoda resides. A one-stop shop for all things video games. Box: 24 packs of 6 cards. 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But HE NEEDED MORE YEAR..Poor boy he didnt get it. Sidious does not think anakin is stronger than him YET. I did? Now, we know that Sidious never plays fair. You are all citing prophecy and overrating Anakin's abilities. Vs Savage Opress 5. Anakin ruined that. The Father's power as his age went on got weaker, but he was still incomparably attuned in the Force. 1.13 per box if collation were perfect. Anakin's prime however, is arguably sometime during the Clone Wars, before Revenge of the Sith. Overall, more information is needed about Yoda's younger years, Windu's Force powers, and their overall comparison, even if Windu says it is Yoda who is the most powerful. Similar to the Ones, how could Yoda, a living mortal being, compete with beings like the Priestesses. But as they stood at the greatest they were in the movies, Sidious would win. On this article we will cover The Clone Wars: The Siege of Mandalore: Part II.Check out the double take for the previous episode before moving on! And yes, I can too use the propchecy, because it is part of the Star Wars universe, EU or otherwise. Sidious owns. He got his ass handed back to him first though. Meanwhile, Windu is almost underrated in his Force powers, showing skills in the new canon that were unseen beforehand. But she has not reached the levels of many Jedi Masters yet. Let's avoid that familar road. He uses the force in his fights to win. Vs Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus 6. Native to Mortis and attuned to the Force, unlike nearly all others, the Son and the Daughter are part of the God-like Force Wielder species known as "the Ones.". Sidious, I think, is simply too smart for Anakin. Palpatine plotted in the shadows and used Anakin … The Priestesses represented the connection between the Living Force and the Cosmic Force. (Think about it, Mace had him served, and all he did was cheat using objects and lightning... and even that barely allowed him to get a one-up on Yoda) I can't say for certain Anakin would "easily take this". With a whole load of Jedi never reaching his level and a couple who are a bit hard to choose between, we look at them all here. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Disney Canon Respect Threads 5 Legends/EU Respect Threads 6 Others 7 References Emperor Sheev Palpatine, secretly the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious, was the last Supreme Chancellor of the Galactic Republic, the first and only emperor of the Galactic Empire, and arguably the most powerful Sith Lord in the galaxy's history. Vs Ezra Bridger 2. Anakin could have surpassed all Jedi in power, but instead was seduced down a dark path before he could do this. His strength was insane as he outmuscled Darth Maul on Mandalore and his brother, Savage Oppress at the same time. ani was knighted in the clone wars and sideous is only 63!!!! In canon, however, that cannot be confidently stated. Each of Yoda and Palpatine's power in lightsaber combat and the Force is unknown to a full extent; both have also shown immense power after death. Despite this, he was highly compassionate and extremely brave, as he willingly risked life and limb many times to protect the people of the Republic, as well as his fellow Jedi and even the clone troopers under his command… Anakin has seen more action than Sidious, so he has the experience as far as battle goes. Kingdom Hearts vs. Star Wars. I doubt he's gonna loose to some jedi boy (depending what episodes your basing this on). Since when is Sidious thousands of years old? A human male, Sheev Palpatine was born to a very influential family on the Mid Rim world of Naboo around 84 years prior to the Battle of Yavin. Vs Kylo Ren 3. Ultimately, she has been a Jedi for around a year. Ki-Adi Mundi was another terrific warrior. Palpatine is far more important than "Sidious," and the situation with Vader/Anakin isn't even comparable, as Sidious is merely a mask, not a discrete part of someone's life. RELATED: We Are What They Grow Beyond: 10 Of Yoda's Most Iconic Quotes. Obi-Wan Kenobi is a legendary Jedi, a talented swordsman, skilled in the Force, and crucial to the Galaxy, but he is no Yoda. It is usually perceived that Windu is more powerful in combat, while Yoda is more powerful in the Force. Anakin Skywalker vs Ahsoka Tano # Anakin Skywalker She was losing to Vader. Despite how close he was to doing so, Anakin never reached the power of Yoda, and it is as simple as that. Vs Kit Fisto 4. 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